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and you're going to see india, its growth by 2030, will be like china is today. that will be that big, huge democracy. >> before anybody's freaking out and transferring their children into all mandarin-speaking schools, we are not going to be in dire straits. we are still going to be a big influence in the global landscape, right? >> absolutely. you're going -- absolutely, no question. but it's going to be, well, one of the quotes from the story is basically that the pacs americana will be over and you're going to see not that one power dominating everything, it's going to be middle classes around the world and more of a balanced power around the world. one thing that's interesting about this, you will have competition for jobs that will create middle classes. it will be pressure on western countries and their middle classes. because around the world, you've got hundreds of millions of people who will be coming up out of poverty, who will want to be in the middle class and have the technology to do those jobs that are we're doing now. >> there's a great read in "
and you're going to see india, its growth by 2030, will be like china is today. that will be that big, huge democracy. >> before anybody's freaking out and transferring their children into all mandarin-speaking schools, we are not going to be in dire straits. we are still going to be a big influence in the global landscape, right? >> absolutely. you're going -- absolutely, no question. but it's going to be, well, one of the quotes from the story is basically that the pacs americana...
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china buying up u.s. companies on the cheap and we are paying interest on money we are borrowing from the communist company in the first place. a battery system is closed unless regalators stepped in. is it 123. >> it is a-123. >> gretchen: it went bankrupt. >> the judge holds an auction and a chinese company wins the auction and $256 million for a 123. china has the money. that's the bottom line. we have spent all of ours and china is buying up american assets like the battery company. the problem is, taxpayers have subicized a 123 and pumped in a grant and gave it to this outfit that is now bankrupt and china is picking up the pieces dirt cheap. the ball is in president obama's court. there is a committee that decides whether or not a foreign company can buy an american company. on what grounds do they wish to buy. is it in our national interest to sell to a chinese company. time geithner heads that committee and he will decide are we going to sell this dirt cheap to china or not. >> gretchen: oh, by th
china buying up u.s. companies on the cheap and we are paying interest on money we are borrowing from the communist company in the first place. a battery system is closed unless regalators stepped in. is it 123. >> it is a-123. >> gretchen: it went bankrupt. >> the judge holds an auction and a chinese company wins the auction and $256 million for a 123. china has the money. that's the bottom line. we have spent all of ours and china is buying up american assets like the...
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jenna: china has a role in all of this as well? >> china has been backing both iran and north korea with regard to missiles and nukes. >> where can you point to as an example where sanctions have actually worked, when it comes to north korea or iran or anywhere? north korea is obviously still pursuing a very high-tech weapon. >> right. >> according to these reports they deny it. >> sure. >> to be fair when have sanctions really worked? worked5 and 2007 with regard to those financial sanctions i talked about. of course they also worked with south africa which is the prime example. they probably also worked with regard to yugoslavia when the country was going through some problems. sanctions can have an effect. not enough on their own but when you do that with other diplomacy, yeah, they can have a lot of effect on these regimes. iran right now is reeling because of the financial sanctions that the u.s. imposed on the central bank of iran. jenna: that is what many say. the big question do we see them test a nuclear weapon in the next
jenna: china has a role in all of this as well? >> china has been backing both iran and north korea with regard to missiles and nukes. >> where can you point to as an example where sanctions have actually worked, when it comes to north korea or iran or anywhere? north korea is obviously still pursuing a very high-tech weapon. >> right. >> according to these reports they deny it. >> sure. >> to be fair when have sanctions really worked? worked5 and 2007 with...
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we're bringing up apple in china. right now they're saying iphone 5 sales are running 50% ahead of what iphone 4 sales were in 2010. that's fairly significant if it turns out to be true. the source for that is macbook translating data from chinese. that's making the rounds. i think people are looking at this aspect of wait a minute. this is a whole growth market that maybe is not in all the -- people are bullish on the china story. but maybe not enough. i think that's giving it to credence here. >> stocks off session highs after those comments from speaker boehner. really, we're hanging in there truth be told. dow up 106 points. when "halftime" returns we zero in on the health of financial stocks from the floor and more companies announcing special dividends as the nation gets closer to the fiscal cliff deadline. deutsche bank top u.s. equity strategist david bianco tells us who can be next. >>> later, can amazon deliver more joy to investors as holiday crunch time takes a new level. shares up 45% this year. we debate
we're bringing up apple in china. right now they're saying iphone 5 sales are running 50% ahead of what iphone 4 sales were in 2010. that's fairly significant if it turns out to be true. the source for that is macbook translating data from chinese. that's making the rounds. i think people are looking at this aspect of wait a minute. this is a whole growth market that maybe is not in all the -- people are bullish on the china story. but maybe not enough. i think that's giving it to credence...
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things in china are settling out with the trance in addition that leadership and we see sequentialal improvement there. as we go into '13, we see a very strong story for did you possibility. we see strength in agriculture, nutrition, advanced materials, industrial biosciences. those businesses' earnings will be up in the high teens here year over year. that will be overshadowed by a cyclical business. our performance chemical segments, going to lose six to seven points of margin in 2013 versus 2012, so when you add it all up, we believe next year we'll see low to mid single digit earnings improvement. >> does any of this include expectations about the fiscal cliff? i mean, if we go over the fiscal cliff and don't have a debt deal by year end, what you will to cut jobs? what's the impact on dupont if we don't get a resolution in time in. >> it's hard to predict because it's hard to know. i do think if there's an issue and we don't avert a cliff i think we as a country will react quickly. i criit will have an impact. i along with many of my peers have been advocating very strongly to r
things in china are settling out with the trance in addition that leadership and we see sequentialal improvement there. as we go into '13, we see a very strong story for did you possibility. we see strength in agriculture, nutrition, advanced materials, industrial biosciences. those businesses' earnings will be up in the high teens here year over year. that will be overshadowed by a cyclical business. our performance chemical segments, going to lose six to seven points of margin in 2013 versus...
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you going to borrow it from china? alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is imposed suddenly realize this is going to cost a lot of money, it's going to hurt my voter, it's going to hurt the device industry. please delay it. all of a sudden. alisyn: maybe they should have read it. >> but it was very long. alisyn: it was long. [laughter] you've got that right. stu varney, thanks so much for parsing all of this. >>> meanwhile, a violent political power struggle on the streets of one major u.s. ally, but as both sides protest in egypt, there's also a push to legitimize some hard-line islamist groups. so in three minu
you going to borrow it from china? alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is...
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we also have china that is slowing down. globally and also domestically there is not enough demand to keep the economy going and i would say the worst scenario of all -- i don't think it's going to happen, but probably by march we're going to see some real problems in the economy if nothing happens. ou and i agreee do go off the cliff, so to speak, on january 1st, that the negotiations to fix this problem would begin somewhere around january 2nd? >> probably the 8:00 a.m. the morning of january 2nd. they are going on right now. >> yes. >> there is probably a slightly better than 50/50 chance that there will be a deal before december 18th. assuming that we're close to a deal, i think it's going to happen right away and the democrats are going to be preparing legislation and it's going to be introduced right away, january 2nd, to make a middle class tax cut retroactive to january 1st. >> yes. exactly. and i think one of the striking things that we're not hearing right now are a stand your ground republicans in the house or in
we also have china that is slowing down. globally and also domestically there is not enough demand to keep the economy going and i would say the worst scenario of all -- i don't think it's going to happen, but probably by march we're going to see some real problems in the economy if nothing happens. ou and i agreee do go off the cliff, so to speak, on january 1st, that the negotiations to fix this problem would begin somewhere around january 2nd? >> probably the 8:00 a.m. the morning of...
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we talked about this on "fast money" a couple of years ago, when -- >> when china restricted rare earth, this was a great stock to be in. it became a broken momentum stock, the story started to fall apart. the last couple of davedays, th stock was up 20% to 30%. >> it's gone from six bucks around the s.e.c. probe time, $11.33 and actually gave back after hours, really effectively what it gained today. the stock still looks some what bull proof -- >> really? >> despite the fact you've seen a move after hours in the change on the ceo, there are some people that said, this guy needs to go. and i think there were questions about the surrounding s.e.c. probe, there were questions about the mine in california, so, i think people might be ultimately outside of, there's never, you know, consistency and some vision from the top, is what everybody wants to see and we don't exact lly know what wee going to get. this isn't necessarily bad news. i'm really saying, a stock that's run this much, for this kind of reaction, i'm just saying, this is not a huge reaction. >> we should be clear. the company
we talked about this on "fast money" a couple of years ago, when -- >> when china restricted rare earth, this was a great stock to be in. it became a broken momentum stock, the story started to fall apart. the last couple of davedays, th stock was up 20% to 30%. >> it's gone from six bucks around the s.e.c. probe time, $11.33 and actually gave back after hours, really effectively what it gained today. the stock still looks some what bull proof -- >> really? >>...
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well, a new report says that by 2030, china will be the largest economy. they base it on the size of the economy, population, military spending, and investment in technology. >>> our fourth story, selling a fix. with just 22 days until the fiscal cliff kicks in and we all go sailing off. we're hearing a lot of talk about talking between the president and the house speaker. apparently, these talks are behind closed doors because they're talking over or at or something not good at each other. here is president obama today in detroit on his plan to raise taxes on families making more than $250,000 a year. >> that's a principle i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks. >> is the tough talk road show working for the president tonight? ben labolt is a former press secretary for the obama campaign. he had a vacation that's why he looks healthy now. and republican strategist terry holt. good to see both of you. terry, i want to start with you. the most rec
well, a new report says that by 2030, china will be the largest economy. they base it on the size of the economy, population, military spending, and investment in technology. >>> our fourth story, selling a fix. with just 22 days until the fiscal cliff kicks in and we all go sailing off. we're hearing a lot of talk about talking between the president and the house speaker. apparently, these talks are behind closed doors because they're talking over or at or something not good at each...
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china will be a big driver and india will be growing like china is today. they talk about how the world is changing. it's like no other time since the french revolution. remember in the late 18th century, the industrial revolution, except it's happening more quickly. it's taking a tenth of the time for china and asia to rise quickly. let me read to you something from the report, in the tectonic shift, asia will have surpassed north maeshg and europe combined in terms of global power, based upon gdp, population size, military spending and technological spending. china alone will probably have the largest economy, surpassing that of the united states a few years before 2030. people because of technology, people really have more power than they've ever had before, individuals have more power an that can also cause problems with, you know, people using technology for ill means. >> is this the whole report? >> the 140-page rundown. i'm sure the president gets a bigger one. >> this is an intelligence report. >> yes. >> why on earth would anyone buy a jillion doll
china will be a big driver and india will be growing like china is today. they talk about how the world is changing. it's like no other time since the french revolution. remember in the late 18th century, the industrial revolution, except it's happening more quickly. it's taking a tenth of the time for china and asia to rise quickly. let me read to you something from the report, in the tectonic shift, asia will have surpassed north maeshg and europe combined in terms of global power, based upon...
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want them in lexington, kentucky or china? >> you mentioned germany. volkswagen opened a plant in chattanooga a few months ago, 2,000 new jobs. bob corcoran was down there. 2,000 jobs, every one of which started at $14.50 an hour. >> right. they're not all going to be at -- >> so volkswagen was moving these jobs here because we're the low wage country compared to germany. >> dude, are you suggesting we push these jobs away? >> i'm not. >> i would rather americans have a shot at a $17 an hour job than having it in china. >> i agree. >> find a way to do better. i actually agree with you. but you have to understand the consequences are pretty severe for american lifestyles. >> again, though, i'm sorry, mike, but the consequences are, we have two choices, we can't get 1965 wages, we either have these jobs in china or lexington, either have them in alabama or germany and this is at least for some of -- a chance for younger americans to get some good jobs. >> joe, if you're taking a job that pays $14.50 an hour. it means one of two things, a, you don't have
want them in lexington, kentucky or china? >> you mentioned germany. volkswagen opened a plant in chattanooga a few months ago, 2,000 new jobs. bob corcoran was down there. 2,000 jobs, every one of which started at $14.50 an hour. >> right. they're not all going to be at -- >> so volkswagen was moving these jobs here because we're the low wage country compared to germany. >> dude, are you suggesting we push these jobs away? >> i'm not. >> i would rather...